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== Spring Collab scale ==
== Spring Collab scale ==

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The [[Spring Collab]] scale is one of the most common ones used in the Celeste community, separating maps into several broad categories by their difficulty. There are also modifiers indicating whether it is easier or harder than the average in said category. The maps are divided by multiple factors: the precision required, input density, the tech used in them and the complexity of executing it (e.g. tech with setups is easier), or other criteria. One example is [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Lava Layer|Lava Layer]], a Grandmaster map from [[Strawberry Jam]] that doesn't use any advanced tech but features incredibly tight movement.
The [[Spring Collab]] scale is one of the most common ones used in the Celeste community, separating maps into several broad categories by their difficulty. There are also modifiers indicating whether it is easier or harder than the average in said category. The maps are divided by multiple factors: the precision required, input density, the tech used in them and the complexity of executing it (e.g. tech with setups is easier), or other criteria. One example is [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Lava Layer|Lava Layer]], a Grandmaster map from [[Strawberry Jam]] that doesn't use any advanced tech but features incredibly tight movement.


A map being longer or shorter does not affect it's difficulty on this scale, rather it is rated based on the hardest room of the map.
A map being longer or shorter does not affect its difficulty on this scale, rather it is rated based on the hardest room of the map.

The shortenings and other names are given in parentheses. Grandmaster+1 and higher difficulties are not in Spring Collab; they are extensions of this scale, developed as harder maps released.


{{Ambox|type=style|text=This section is proposed to be reformatted as a list of reference maps due to the complexity of defining difficulties. There may be additional information on [{{DiscordLink}} the Celeste Wiki Discord server].|date=June 20, 2024}}
The shortenings and other names are given in parentheses. Grandmaster+1 and higher difficulties are not in Spring Collab; they are extensions of this scale, developed as harder maps released


=== Beginner (beg) ===
=== Beginner (beg) ===
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=== Grandmaster (gm) ===
=== Grandmaster (gm) ===


Grandmaster maps are some of the hardest maps available in Celeste. They are generally limited to top-tier players. These maps feature advanced tech almost consistently, including chained ultras, [[Spike Jumps|spike jumps]], and [[core hypers]]. Deep knowledge of the game and consistency at frame-limited (≈ 4-frame) tech is expected at this level.
Grandmaster maps are some of the hardest maps available in Celeste. They are generally limited to top-tier players. These maps often feature advanced tech almost consistently, including chained ultras, [[Spike Jumps|spike jumps]], and [[core hypers]]. Deep knowledge of the game and consistency at frame-limited (≈ 4-frame) tech is expected at this level.


=== Grandmaster+1 (gm+1, astral) ===
=== Grandmaster+1 (gm+1, astral) ===
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== Hardlist ==
== Hardlist ==


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[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A88F3X2lOQJry-Da2NpnAr-w5WDrkjDtg7Wt0kLCiz8/edit#gid=1904725075 Celeste's Hardest Maps Clear List] is a catalogue of maps that are at least as hard as [[Darkmoon Ruins]] (about red Grandmaster), along with videos of their clears. They are split into four tiers (1 Star - 4 Star) by their difficulty. Each star is divided into high and low subtiers.
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A88F3X2lOQJry-Da2NpnAr-w5WDrkjDtg7Wt0kLCiz8/edit#gid=1904725075 Celeste's Hardest Maps Clear List] is a catalogue of maps that are at least as hard as [[Darkmoon Ruins]] (about red Grandmaster), along with videos of their clears. They are split into four tiers (1 Star 4 Star) by their difficulty. Each star is divided into high and low subtiers.


=== 1 Star ===
=== 1 Star ===


A map is 1 Star if it is as hard as Darkmoon Ruins and up to the peak of Grandmaster difficulty. Examples include [[7D With Single Dash...|7D With Single Dash... (Old)]], [[Eclair]], and [[Vivid Abyss]].
A map is 1 Star if it is as hard as Darkmoon Ruins and up to the peak of Grandmaster difficulty. Examples include [[7D With Single Dash...]] (Old), [[Eclair]], and [[Vivid Abyss]].


=== 2 Star ===
=== 2 Star ===
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=== 4 Star ===
=== 4 Star ===


4 Star maps are the hardest humanly possible maps of ''Celeste'', being at or above yellow Grandmaster+2 difficulty. The low 4 Star tier includes maps like [[D1D7]], [[Madeline Votes in the 2020 U.S. Election D-Side]], and [[MOCE|MOCE // LXVI]]. The high tier only includes: [[The Solar Purgatory]], and [[5B Funnier Version]]
4 Star maps are the hardest humanly possible maps of ''Celeste'', being at or above yellow Grandmaster+2 difficulty. The low 4 Star tier includes maps like [[D1D7]], [[Madeline Votes in the 2020 U.S. Election D-Side]], [[MOCE|MOCE // LXVI]], and [[5B Funnier Version]]. The high tier only includes [[The Solar Purgatory]].


== Top Golden List ==
== Top Golden List ==
There is also a difficulty scale for comparing deathless challenges. The Top Golden List from the [[Custom Map Golden Strawberry List]] uses a tier system for comparing the difficulty of deathless challenges (usually [[Golden Strawberries|golden berry]] runs). A golden is called standard list difficulty if it is easier than Hell Trio, which are the B-Side golden strawberries of chapters 6, 7, and 8 from the base game. Goldens above the difficulty of Hell Trio are ranked in tiers, where a Tier 7 golden is only slightly harder than Hell Trio, and a Tier 0 golden being near the hardest golden berries ever collected, and also Tiers 0-3 are split into two or three subtiers (Low, Mid, High). Most tiers have "difficulty reference" maps which are challenges with uncontroversial difficulty opinions from the player base, so other goldens and deathless challenges can be compared with respect to these uncontroversial goldens.
There is also a difficulty scale for deathless challenges. The Top Golden List from the [[Custom Map Golden Strawberry List]] ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v0yhceinMGr5alNekOxEkYCxXcYUsbtzMRVMezxbcVY/ link]) uses a tier system for comparing the difficulty of deathless challenges (usually [[Golden Strawberries|golden berry]] runs). A golden is called standard list difficulty if it is easier than Hell Trio (goldens of vanilla {{ch|6B}}, {{ch|7B}}, and {{ch|8B}}). Goldens above the difficulty of Hell Trio are ranked in tiers, where a Tier 7 golden is only slightly harder than Hell Trio, and a Tier 0 golden is near the hardest golden berries ever collected. Also, Tiers 0-3 are split into two or three subtiers (Low, Mid, High).


The difficulty references for each tier are listed below easiest to hardest but can be subject to change at any time:
Most tiers have "difficulty reference" maps with uncontroversial difficulty opinions from the player base. Other goldens and deathless challenges are compared with respect to these. The difficulty references for each tier are listed below easiest to hardest but can change at any time. If there are no reference goldens, the most popular goldens will be listed instead.


Here, [FC] means full clear, and [C/FC] means either normal clear or full clear (which are of similar difficulty).
[[File:TopGoldenList.png|thumb|500px|The Top Golden List tab from the Golden Sheet as of June 9, 2024]]
* Standard Tier: Any challenge easier than or as hard as the golden berries for 6B, 7B, and 8B.
* Standard Tier: Any challenge easier than or as hard as the golden berries for 6B, 7B, and 8B.
* Tier 7: Chromatic Complex [C/FC], Delusional Canopy, [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Raspberry Roots|Raspberry Roots]], Static Shift, Void-Side B-Side
* Tier 7: Chromatic Complex [C/FC], Delusional Canopy, [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Raspberry Roots|Raspberry Roots]], Static Shift, Void-Side B-Side
* Tier 6: Cryoshock D-Side [C/FC], Delusional Canopy [FC], Mirror Temple D-Side [C/FC], Strawberry Pi [FC], UFO Nest B-Side
* Tier 6: Cryoshock D-Side [C/FC], Delusional Canopy [FC], Mirror Temple D-Side [C/FC], Strawberry Pi [FC], UFO Nest B-Side
* Tier 5: Teletown [C/FC], UFO Nest A-Side [C/FC]
* Tier 5: Teletown [C/FC], UFO Nest A-Side [C/FC]
* Tier 4: [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Mango Mesa|Mango Mesa]], The Summit CC-Side
* Tier 4: [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Mango Mesa|Mango Mesa]] ({{Abbr|SJ|Strawberry Jam Collab}}), The Summit CC-Side
* Low Tier 3: '''[[Farewell]] (No DTS)''', Another Farewell Map A-Side [C/FC], Solaris
* Low Tier 3: '''[[Farewell]] (No [[Farewell#Dash Trigger Skip|DTS]])''', Another Farewell Map A-Side [C/FC], [[Solaris]]
* Mid Tier 3: Ferocious Sanctuary+, Glyph [FC]
* Mid Tier 3: Ferocious Sanctuary+, Glyph [FC]
* High Tier 3: summit (SJ)
* High Tier 3: [[Strawberry Jam Collab/summit|summit]] (SJ)
* Low Tier 2: Grandmaster Heart Side [New] (SC2020)
* Low Tier 2: Grandmaster Heart Side [New] ({{Abbr|SC2020|Spring Collab 2020}})
* Mid Tier 2: none at the moment, as there is no good fit for a difficulty reference in this tier yet, however some Mid Tier 2 goldens are: [[Mauve]] [Old] [FC], Reflection D-Side [New] (v3.0).
* Mid Tier 2: no reference goldens, some Mid Tier 2 goldens are: [[Mauve]] (Old) [FC] and Reflection D-Side (new, v3.0).
* High Tier 2: Calypta [FC]
* High Tier 2: Calypta [FC]
* Low Tier 1: [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Starfruit Supernova|Starfruit Supernova]], The Summit D-Side. [C/FC], Superfecta
* Low Tier 1: [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Starfruit Supernova|Starfruit Supernova]], The Summit D-Side. [C/FC], Superfecta
* Mid Tier 1: Midnight Aquarium [FC], [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Pinball Purgatory|Pinball Purgatory]]
* Mid Tier 1: Midnight Aquarium [FC], [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Pinball Purgatory|Pinball Purgatory]]
* High Tier 1: [[Everlasting Farewell]], Summit Prologue [FC]
* High Tier 1: [[Everlasting Farewell]], Summit Prologue [FC]
* Low Tier 0: This tier does not have any reference goldens, however the current Low Tier 0 golden are: Chapter 3 L-Side, MOCE // LXVI, [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Pinball Purgatory|Pinball Purgatory]] [FC], and The Big Reveal.
* Low Tier 0: no reference goldens, the current Low Tier 0 goldens are: Chapter 3 L-Side, MOCE // LXVI, [[Strawberry Jam Collab/Pinball Purgatory|Pinball Purgatory]] [FC], and The Big Reveal.
* High Tier 0: This tier does not have any reference goldens, however the current High Tier 0 golden are: 7D With Single Dash... (Old), Darkmoon Ruins [FC], Passionfruit Pantheon, and Waterbear Mountain [FC].
* High Tier 0: no reference goldens, the current High Tier 0 goldens are: 7D With Single Dash... (Old), Darkmoon Ruins [FC], Passionfruit Pantheon, and Waterbear Mountain [FC].
* Tier X: This is the theoretical tier above Tier 0, deathless challenges such as Final Goodbye Platinum or [[Strawberry Jam Collab|Strawberry Jam]] [Grandmaster Lobby Deathless] are Tier X in difficulty.
* Tier X: This is the theoretical tier above Tier 0, currently having no clears. Deathless challenges such as [[Final Goodbye]] Platinum or [[Strawberry Jam Collab|Strawberry Jam]] [Grandmaster Lobby Deathless] are Tier X.










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Difficulty is a measure of skill and effort a player must have to complete a certain Celeste map, room, or deathless challenges. Difficulty in vanilla Celeste is never defined. Instead, B-Sides are naturally positioned harder than A-Sides, C-Sides are a notch above both, and Farewell's difficulty is slightly above the C-Sides. Mods have a much greater flexibility when it comes to difficulty. Therefore, a few difficulty scales have been developed for modded maps. This article describes the most popular ones.

Spring Collab scale

The Spring Collab scale is one of the most common ones used in the Celeste community, separating maps into several broad categories by their difficulty. There are also modifiers indicating whether it is easier or harder than the average in said category. The maps are divided by multiple factors: the precision required, input density, the tech used in them and the complexity of executing it (e.g. tech with setups is easier), or other criteria. One example is Lava Layer, a Grandmaster map from Strawberry Jam Collab that doesn't use any advanced tech but features incredibly tight movement.

A map being longer or shorter does not affect its difficulty on this scale, rather it is rated based on the hardest room of the map.

The shortenings and other names are given in parentheses. Grandmaster+1 and higher difficulties are not in Spring Collab; they are extensions of this scale, developed as harder maps released.

Beginner (beg)

Despite its name, Beginner difficulty typically exceeds the level of "beginner" in most other games. Most of Celeste's base game chapters and some B-Sides fall into this difficulty. Some simple tech, such as Dream Jumps and setup wallbounces, fall within the scope of beginner difficulty. Beginner maps generally have few tight jumps or maneuvers and seldom use more advanced tech.

Intermediate (int)

A screen of an Intermediate-difficulty map Temple of a Thousand Skies

Intermediate-difficulty maps feature supers, hypers and wavedashes. The precision needed is higher than in beginner maps, but it is still relatively lenient compared to higher difficulties. Most of Celeste's B-Sides and C-Sides fall into this category, alongside much of Farewell.

Advanced (adv)

Advanced maps are a relatively small step up from what Celeste's base game has to offer. Reversed tech and neutral jumps are common at this difficulty; the level of precision expected from the player also grows significantly. As a baseline, a player who has completed Farewell once typically won't experience many problems tackling the advanced maps. Some Farewell and C-Side rooms can fall into this category, but that's about it.

Expert (exp)

A screen of an Expert-difficulty map Golden Alleyway. Note that the gates can be triggered by pressing Grab.

Expert maps start becoming truly problematic for most players. Tech such as dream hypers, cornerboosts, and ultradashes are introduced at this difficulty. These maps demand some degree of mastery with Celeste's various tech to complete. No Celeste base game level is of Expert difficulty.

Grandmaster (gm)

Grandmaster maps are some of the hardest maps available in Celeste. They are generally limited to top-tier players. These maps often feature advanced tech almost consistently, including chained ultras, spike jumps, and core hypers. Deep knowledge of the game and consistency at frame-limited (≈ 4-frame) tech is expected at this level.

Grandmaster+1 (gm+1, astral)

The Grandmaster+1 difficulty introduces specific tech or maneuvers having a window of less than 4 frames. Tech such as reverse cornerboosts, neutral reverse cornerboosts, and setup ceiling pops are frequently utilized. Screens of this difficulty are usually very long.

Grandmaster+2 (gm+2, celestial)

Hardlist

Celeste's Hardest Maps Clear List is a catalogue of maps that are at least as hard as Darkmoon Ruins (about red Grandmaster), along with videos of their clears. They are split into four tiers (1 Star — 4 Star) by their difficulty. Each star is divided into high and low subtiers.

1 Star

A map is 1 Star if it is as hard as Darkmoon Ruins and up to the peak of Grandmaster difficulty. Examples include 7D With Single Dash... (Old), Eclair, and Vivid Abyss.

2 Star

2 Star maps are green-yellow Grandmaster+1 maps. Some examples are MOCE // CPVL, Mauve, Passionfruit Pantheon, and SWAPSLUT.

3 Star

3 Star maps are red Grandmaster+1 maps up to green Grandmaster+2 maps. Examples of 3 Star maps are Crystal Garden and Avian Ascension.

4 Star

4 Star maps are the hardest humanly possible maps of Celeste, being at or above yellow Grandmaster+2 difficulty. The low 4 Star tier includes maps like D1D7, Madeline Votes in the 2020 U.S. Election D-Side, MOCE // LXVI, and 5B Funnier Version. The high tier only includes The Solar Purgatory.

Top Golden List

There is also a difficulty scale for deathless challenges. The Top Golden List from the Custom Map Golden Strawberry List (link) uses a tier system for comparing the difficulty of deathless challenges (usually golden berry runs). A golden is called standard list difficulty if it is easier than Hell Trio (goldens of vanilla 6B, 7B, and 8B). Goldens above the difficulty of Hell Trio are ranked in tiers, where a Tier 7 golden is only slightly harder than Hell Trio, and a Tier 0 golden is near the hardest golden berries ever collected. Also, Tiers 0-3 are split into two or three subtiers (Low, Mid, High).

Most tiers have "difficulty reference" maps with uncontroversial difficulty opinions from the player base. Other goldens and deathless challenges are compared with respect to these. The difficulty references for each tier are listed below easiest to hardest but can change at any time. If there are no reference goldens, the most popular goldens will be listed instead.

Here, [FC] means full clear, and [C/FC] means either normal clear or full clear (which are of similar difficulty).

The Top Golden List tab from the Golden Sheet as of June 9, 2024
  • Standard Tier: Any challenge easier than or as hard as the golden berries for 6B, 7B, and 8B.
  • Tier 7: Chromatic Complex [C/FC], Delusional Canopy, Raspberry Roots, Static Shift, Void-Side B-Side
  • Tier 6: Cryoshock D-Side [C/FC], Delusional Canopy [FC], Mirror Temple D-Side [C/FC], Strawberry Pi [FC], UFO Nest B-Side
  • Tier 5: Teletown [C/FC], UFO Nest A-Side [C/FC]
  • Tier 4: Mango Mesa (SJ), The Summit CC-Side
  • Low Tier 3: Farewell (No DTS), Another Farewell Map A-Side [C/FC], Solaris
  • Mid Tier 3: Ferocious Sanctuary+, Glyph [FC]
  • High Tier 3: summit (SJ)
  • Low Tier 2: Grandmaster Heart Side [New] (SC2020)
  • Mid Tier 2: no reference goldens, some Mid Tier 2 goldens are: Mauve (Old) [FC] and Reflection D-Side (new, v3.0).
  • High Tier 2: Calypta [FC]
  • Low Tier 1: Starfruit Supernova, The Summit D-Side. [C/FC], Superfecta
  • Mid Tier 1: Midnight Aquarium [FC], Pinball Purgatory
  • High Tier 1: Everlasting Farewell, Summit Prologue [FC]
  • Low Tier 0: no reference goldens, the current Low Tier 0 goldens are: Chapter 3 L-Side, MOCE // LXVI, Pinball Purgatory [FC], and The Big Reveal.
  • High Tier 0: no reference goldens, the current High Tier 0 goldens are: 7D With Single Dash... (Old), Darkmoon Ruins [FC], Passionfruit Pantheon, and Waterbear Mountain [FC].
  • Tier X: This is the theoretical tier above Tier 0, currently having no clears. Deathless challenges such as Final Goodbye Platinum or Strawberry Jam [Grandmaster Lobby Deathless] are Tier X.